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		<title>Comment on 10 Pet Peeves That Dogs Hate About Humans by Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about my cat life story about how it is out to get its owner haha that made me laugh:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about my cat life story about how it is out to get its owner haha that made me laugh:D</p>
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		<title>Comment on Double Bay Vet Clinic Sweep the Business Achiever Awards by dave nicol</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Karina.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Double Bay Vet Clinic Sweep the Business Achiever Awards by Karina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations you deserve it :)</description>
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		<title>Comment on Shortage of Lifesaving Antiserum Places Dogs Lives At Risk by dave nicol</title>
		<link>http://www.doublebayvet.com.au/blog/?p=309&#038;cpage=1#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>dave nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam,

Great question, to which the answer is an emphatic yes. The blog is mostly focused on dogs as they are more commonly affected, much more commonly, but paralysis ticks can affect a whole range of animals.

For all those cat owners out there here&#039;s some advice from the great Professor Richard Malik himself who makes the following points:

a)     Use frontline spray in cats not top spot to prevent ticks. Definitely DO NOT USE Advantix as it kills cats - stone dead.

b)      Proban tablets can also be used

c)      Daily tick searches – by hand, and using a stainless steel FLEA comb

d)     Keeping your cat exclusively indoors will largely prevent the problem.

It is thought that cats have fewer ticks because they groom more fastidiously and owners may not notice if their cat is under the weather as much because cats tend to sleep more than dogs anyway. 

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam,</p>
<p>Great question, to which the answer is an emphatic yes. The blog is mostly focused on dogs as they are more commonly affected, much more commonly, but paralysis ticks can affect a whole range of animals.</p>
<p>For all those cat owners out there here&#8217;s some advice from the great Professor Richard Malik himself who makes the following points:</p>
<p>a)     Use frontline spray in cats not top spot to prevent ticks. Definitely DO NOT USE Advantix as it kills cats &#8211; stone dead.</p>
<p>b)      Proban tablets can also be used</p>
<p>c)      Daily tick searches – by hand, and using a stainless steel FLEA comb</p>
<p>d)     Keeping your cat exclusively indoors will largely prevent the problem.</p>
<p>It is thought that cats have fewer ticks because they groom more fastidiously and owners may not notice if their cat is under the weather as much because cats tend to sleep more than dogs anyway. </p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shortage of Lifesaving Antiserum Places Dogs Lives At Risk by Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.doublebayvet.com.au/blog/?p=309&#038;cpage=1#comment-1220</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello - just a quick question - do paralysis ticks affect CATS also?

Thank you, Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello &#8211; just a quick question &#8211; do paralysis ticks affect CATS also?</p>
<p>Thank you, Sam</p>
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		<title>Comment on Them Bones, Them Bones, Them Bad Bones…. by Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 03:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave

Thanks for your reply.

Clearly this is something we will never agree on however I would like to answer a couple of points you raised. 

You say that German Shepherds in general have good teeth – maybe so I don’t know - but that doesn’t explain why our cat’s teeth which were sufficiently bad to require surgery BEFORE we started feeding her chicken wings and necks got glowing reports from her vet AFTER their inclusion in her diet and right up until she died 8 years later. By the way we always fed our cat on a rubber mat in the laundry and removed whatever she didn’t finish so the risk of giving the “family food poisoning” by ” having a cat lick a raw meaty chicken wing around the kitchen floor each day” was never an issue for us.

To say that by telling owners to feed bones to their pets “is to effectively delegate dental care to the butcher who chooses which bones to give out that day” would be true if you didn’t, as part of that same discussion, provide advice on the types of bones which are suitable to feed your pet AND the types of bones which are most definitely NOT suitable.

Thanks for your time.

Best regards
Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply.</p>
<p>Clearly this is something we will never agree on however I would like to answer a couple of points you raised. </p>
<p>You say that German Shepherds in general have good teeth – maybe so I don’t know &#8211; but that doesn’t explain why our cat’s teeth which were sufficiently bad to require surgery BEFORE we started feeding her chicken wings and necks got glowing reports from her vet AFTER their inclusion in her diet and right up until she died 8 years later. By the way we always fed our cat on a rubber mat in the laundry and removed whatever she didn’t finish so the risk of giving the “family food poisoning” by ” having a cat lick a raw meaty chicken wing around the kitchen floor each day” was never an issue for us.</p>
<p>To say that by telling owners to feed bones to their pets “is to effectively delegate dental care to the butcher who chooses which bones to give out that day” would be true if you didn’t, as part of that same discussion, provide advice on the types of bones which are suitable to feed your pet AND the types of bones which are most definitely NOT suitable.</p>
<p>Thanks for your time.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />
Sue</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take a stand against (not in) dog poo! by Did Picky Pet Poopers Invoke the Balmain Pet Poisoner? &#171; Double Bay Vet Blog</title>
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		<title>Comment on Them Bones, Them Bones, Them Bad Bones…. by dave nicol</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue,

Thanks for your comment. I certainly agree that it&#039;s a case of horses for courses when it comes to different pets and what they can tolerate in their diet.  One size rarely fits all and it&#039;s great that your dog is doing well.

The jist of the article and my particular interest is in debating the oft quoted &quot;fact&quot; that bones clean teeth. A German Shepherd is perhaps not the best dog to argue about because by and large they have good teeth. 

Having now spent over a year in Australia my observations (I choose the word carefully) are that:
1. Bone feeding is a widespread phenomenon in Australia. Almost every pet owner I meet feeds their dog bones. Compared to virtually no-one doing so in the UK. So you might expect Aussie pet&#039;s teeth to be significantly better.
2. The fact is that see no less incidence of dental disease here than i do in the UK. 
3. I am however treating a lot of fractured carnassial teeth with abscesses. (the big one up top at the back of the mouth) - a result (I&#039;m fairly confident) of dogs being fed huge beef knuckle bones which are way too hard for the tooth enamel. Labradors, Kelpies and Staffies seem more commonly affected than others.

In general I must say i&#039;ve become less anti-bone than i was in the UK (as I say in the article). The story that goes along with the BARF diet does sound compelling, however I simply do not believe most of the claims. And the dental claims in particular I have I found unsubstantiaited by real life evidence before me. 

My point is that if people want to feed bones, then that&#039;s very much their business. I do though think they have a right to an honest, balanced perspective. If someone gets advice to give a bone instead of brush their pet&#039;s teeth then that&#039;s not good advice. I&#039;m sure it will be better for the teeth than giving a tin of sloppy dog food each day, but i don&#039;t think it&#039;s any better than giving a kibble (especially a dental one) and it is nowhere near as effective as daily tooth brushing. When I ask, most of my clients say they buy whatever the butcher is offering that day for their dog. So in effect for me to say give your dog a bone each day is to effectively delegate dental care to the butcher who chooses which bones to give out that day. That&#039;s bad news for teeth in my book and I&#039;m the one extracting the broken teeth which suggests this is true. 

As i said, i&#039;ve softened my stance on this issue, but still i feel the risks of feeding bones outweigh the benefit. I personally won&#039;t be giving my pets bones or especially raw chicken (though my colleagues do). I can&#039;t think of many better ways to give my family food poisoning than having a cat lick a raw meaty chicken wing around my kitchen floor each day. 

My advice to clients reflects this. At the end of the day pet health care comes first and if this diet works for you then great! Go for it. All i do is give a balanced view of the benefits reported by others and the problems i treat each week in my consult room. With no food company bias in the middle. ;-)

Great comment though and good to get some discussion going.

Cheers, Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I certainly agree that it&#8217;s a case of horses for courses when it comes to different pets and what they can tolerate in their diet.  One size rarely fits all and it&#8217;s great that your dog is doing well.</p>
<p>The jist of the article and my particular interest is in debating the oft quoted &#8220;fact&#8221; that bones clean teeth. A German Shepherd is perhaps not the best dog to argue about because by and large they have good teeth. </p>
<p>Having now spent over a year in Australia my observations (I choose the word carefully) are that:<br />
1. Bone feeding is a widespread phenomenon in Australia. Almost every pet owner I meet feeds their dog bones. Compared to virtually no-one doing so in the UK. So you might expect Aussie pet&#8217;s teeth to be significantly better.<br />
2. The fact is that see no less incidence of dental disease here than i do in the UK.<br />
3. I am however treating a lot of fractured carnassial teeth with abscesses. (the big one up top at the back of the mouth) &#8211; a result (I&#8217;m fairly confident) of dogs being fed huge beef knuckle bones which are way too hard for the tooth enamel. Labradors, Kelpies and Staffies seem more commonly affected than others.</p>
<p>In general I must say i&#8217;ve become less anti-bone than i was in the UK (as I say in the article). The story that goes along with the BARF diet does sound compelling, however I simply do not believe most of the claims. And the dental claims in particular I have I found unsubstantiaited by real life evidence before me. </p>
<p>My point is that if people want to feed bones, then that&#8217;s very much their business. I do though think they have a right to an honest, balanced perspective. If someone gets advice to give a bone instead of brush their pet&#8217;s teeth then that&#8217;s not good advice. I&#8217;m sure it will be better for the teeth than giving a tin of sloppy dog food each day, but i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s any better than giving a kibble (especially a dental one) and it is nowhere near as effective as daily tooth brushing. When I ask, most of my clients say they buy whatever the butcher is offering that day for their dog. So in effect for me to say give your dog a bone each day is to effectively delegate dental care to the butcher who chooses which bones to give out that day. That&#8217;s bad news for teeth in my book and I&#8217;m the one extracting the broken teeth which suggests this is true. </p>
<p>As i said, i&#8217;ve softened my stance on this issue, but still i feel the risks of feeding bones outweigh the benefit. I personally won&#8217;t be giving my pets bones or especially raw chicken (though my colleagues do). I can&#8217;t think of many better ways to give my family food poisoning than having a cat lick a raw meaty chicken wing around my kitchen floor each day. </p>
<p>My advice to clients reflects this. At the end of the day pet health care comes first and if this diet works for you then great! Go for it. All i do is give a balanced view of the benefits reported by others and the problems i treat each week in my consult room. With no food company bias in the middle. <img src='http://www.doublebayvet.com.au/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great comment though and good to get some discussion going.</p>
<p>Cheers, Dave.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Them Bones, Them Bones, Them Bad Bones…. by Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello
May I begin by saying that I would NEVER feed cooked bones of any sort to my dog or cat but I would like to write in support of feeding raw meaty size-appropriate bones to dogs and cats. 
Our German Shepherd puppy had chronic diarrhoea from the day we got him and no change of diet had any long term beneficial effect. We had various tests performed to find the cause with no result and put him on Hills Scientific Diet also with no long-term benefit. 
Finally in desperation I Googled diarrhoea and dog and found a link to the BARF diet. I read extensively and decided to give it a go. We very rarely fed any bones to our previous German Shepherd so it was with a certain feeling of trepidation that we fed chicken wings to our now 8 month old puppy. I needn’t have worried. He loved them and had no ill effects at all – in fact quite the contrary – his diarrhoea disappeared overnight and he has not had digestive problems of any sort since. He just turned 9 years old.
When we take him to the vet for his yearly shots they always comment on his perfect teeth. We have never brushed them and I put his good dental hygiene down to his daily consumption of raw meaty bones. However we don’t feed him large bones which I agree could possibly break his teeth.
When we saw how well the diet worked for him we started to feed chicken necks and wings to our very fussy 11 year old cat. She had previously had surgery to treat dental problems but following the inclusion of bones in her diet we again always had glowing reports from the vet about her teeth – right up until she died at 19 years of age.
As you can tell I’m an advocate of the inclusion of raw meaty size-appropriate bones in a dog’s and cat’s diet. I would like to think my story might help you to think differently as well. 
Perhaps you might even change the title of your story to 

Them bones, them bones - only RAW MEATY SIZE-APPROPRIATE bones.

Best regards
Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello<br />
May I begin by saying that I would NEVER feed cooked bones of any sort to my dog or cat but I would like to write in support of feeding raw meaty size-appropriate bones to dogs and cats.<br />
Our German Shepherd puppy had chronic diarrhoea from the day we got him and no change of diet had any long term beneficial effect. We had various tests performed to find the cause with no result and put him on Hills Scientific Diet also with no long-term benefit.<br />
Finally in desperation I Googled diarrhoea and dog and found a link to the BARF diet. I read extensively and decided to give it a go. We very rarely fed any bones to our previous German Shepherd so it was with a certain feeling of trepidation that we fed chicken wings to our now 8 month old puppy. I needn’t have worried. He loved them and had no ill effects at all – in fact quite the contrary – his diarrhoea disappeared overnight and he has not had digestive problems of any sort since. He just turned 9 years old.<br />
When we take him to the vet for his yearly shots they always comment on his perfect teeth. We have never brushed them and I put his good dental hygiene down to his daily consumption of raw meaty bones. However we don’t feed him large bones which I agree could possibly break his teeth.<br />
When we saw how well the diet worked for him we started to feed chicken necks and wings to our very fussy 11 year old cat. She had previously had surgery to treat dental problems but following the inclusion of bones in her diet we again always had glowing reports from the vet about her teeth – right up until she died at 19 years of age.<br />
As you can tell I’m an advocate of the inclusion of raw meaty size-appropriate bones in a dog’s and cat’s diet. I would like to think my story might help you to think differently as well.<br />
Perhaps you might even change the title of your story to </p>
<p>Them bones, them bones &#8211; only RAW MEATY SIZE-APPROPRIATE bones.</p>
<p>Best regards<br />
Sue</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, cheers for your very fair comment. May be minimally better than nothing but how many vets aren&#039;t even talking about the gold standard seriously? For me risks of bone feeding outweigh the benefits, if a pet owner can&#039;t brush I&#039;m personally not going to recommend a bone (UK vet culture thing) but I am totally comfortable suggesting that an annual scale and polish will be required if significant gum disease is present. And the Hill&#039;s T/D diet is what i&#039;ve always fed my cats, which does a whole lot more than bones, without the risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, cheers for your very fair comment. May be minimally better than nothing but how many vets aren&#8217;t even talking about the gold standard seriously? For me risks of bone feeding outweigh the benefits, if a pet owner can&#8217;t brush I&#8217;m personally not going to recommend a bone (UK vet culture thing) but I am totally comfortable suggesting that an annual scale and polish will be required if significant gum disease is present. And the Hill&#8217;s T/D diet is what i&#8217;ve always fed my cats, which does a whole lot more than bones, without the risks.</p>
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